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Celtic Longboat and Galley time trial update

Tim
This post was updated on Apr 17, 2025; 6:15pm.
Dear All

This coming Thursday between 1.30pm and 4.30pm SWeare Deep and Langstone Lady will be on the water crewed by

Tim
Vernon
Rich and
Chris W

Coxed by Rachel with a view to undertaking comparative speed trials to inform the Ouse Handicap work being undertaken on behalf of the Three Harbours Group. The plan is to utilise the same crew and cox over a straight line course of some 750 metres on or about high tide to gauge the comparative speeds of both in race conditions.

If anyone would like to join us to get the boats over to and from the North Slip and indeed pace alongside/race then please post below.


Cheers Tim
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Re: Thursday 17th April Celtic Longboat and Galley time trial

Matt O’Neill
Good luck with this.
It’ll be interesting to see the results, and if one is a lot faster than the other.
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MartinS
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I’m around and would be happy to help with rowing over to Northney / general support if needed.
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Les Goodall
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Hello Tim,
I will be available Thursday to help move boat’s across to north slip & if enough people act as pacemakers
😁 boatpark at 1.30 😁
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Liz Walmsley
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I am happy to help on Thursday afternoon as needed. Will be at the boat park for 1330.
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john d. pearce
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Hi Tim
I'll be around.
John D.
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Frances
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I'd be happy to help,  will be at boat park for 13.30
Tim
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Re: Thursday 17th April Celtic Longboat and Galley time trial

Tim
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So with 10 of us we can, if you wish, run two time trials of about 500 metres, the key to which is that the crews remain the same in both trial but switch boats to give a comparison of relative speed. I think we have one stop watch so if anyone has another please bring it along.

Cheers

Tim
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MartinS
Sorry to mess the numbers but not able to make it after all now.
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Pete Reed
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Happy to help if needed Tim
I'll be there at 1.30
Pete
Tim
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Re: Thursday 17th April Celtic Longboat and Galley time trial

Tim
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Thank you Pete, so we have two crews to row both boats👍 Has anyone else got a stop watch or indeed phone with timing on it?

See you all tomorrow 1.30pm

Tim
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Liz Walmsley
I have a stopwatch on my phone….
Tim
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Re: Celtic Longboat and Galley time trial update

Tim
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Well what a great afternoon for mucking about in boats!

The purpose of the “time trials” today was to test the current handicaps being utilised in local events both  for Solent Galleys and Celtic Longboats. The plan was simple in that the same crews would row in different boats over a fixed course of 1 kilometre utilising the Strava app to measure.

So this afternoon the two crews set off in simulated race mode at around high tide to row the 1k from the Langstone Bridge Buoy to the MDL Marina Marker with the actual course and time being recorded. Both crews then changed boats at the North Slip and then completed the course again.

Rachel and Frances armed with a variety of measuring kit coxed their respective crews recoding times, distance etc.

The outcome in short was that both crews completed the course more quickly in the Celtic than the Galley which does raise a question over the GRR handicap where the Galley is so very far behind the Celtic and will indeed be the subject of some clever bods looking at local OY handicaps to see whether the current one is indeed just and fair or over generous to the Galley…………

A big thank you to everyone that participated in this afternoons exercise, the data has been passed on to the Three Harbours OY Handicap Group for their consideration and I will feed back on their deliberations.

Tim



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Re: Celtic Longboat and Galley time trial update

michael
Well done Tim and all. A very worthy and informative project. Thank you all for your efforts.
Michael